Comments on: Is the Writing on the Wall? Adobe Offers Migration Help to FreeHand Users http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/ all about creative tools for creative people Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:16:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: George http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-18366 George Mon, 14 Jan 2008 03:38:25 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-18366 <p>Does Xara and Canvas support Caps Lock?</p> Does Xara and Canvas support Caps Lock?

]]> By: FREE MEE http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-17253 FREE MEE Wed, 28 Nov 2007 12:26:17 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-17253 <p>XARA AND CANVAS ARE 10 TIMES BETTER THAN THE CLUMSY ILLUSTRATOR. I AM TRYING SINCE A HALF YEAR BUT I AM STILL WITH FREEHAND, BECAUSE ITS FASTER, FASTER TO USE, FASTER TO SELECT, FASTER TO COPY THING INSIDE. HEY, TIME IS MONEY AND I CHARGE QUIET A LOT MY COMPANY. WORKING WITH ILLUSTRATOR IS LIKE CHEATING MY BOSS.</p> XARA AND CANVAS ARE 10 TIMES BETTER THAN THE CLUMSY ILLUSTRATOR. I AM TRYING SINCE A HALF YEAR BUT I AM STILL WITH FREEHAND, BECAUSE ITS FASTER, FASTER TO USE, FASTER TO SELECT, FASTER TO COPY THING INSIDE. HEY, TIME IS MONEY AND I CHARGE QUIET A LOT MY COMPANY. WORKING WITH ILLUSTRATOR IS LIKE CHEATING MY BOSS.

]]> By: Techie http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-17227 Techie Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:29:19 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-17227 <p>Man, I never had a vacuum cleaner half as good as Illustrator!</p> Man, I never had a vacuum cleaner half as good as Illustrator!

]]> By: dave http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-12898 dave Sun, 15 Jul 2007 02:15:32 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-12898 <p>Adobe illustrator's UI sucks. Let's be real. I don't know what they are smoking over in that group, but someone should shake that bunch up a bit.</p> <p>Xara is easy to learn. Even Canvas is easier to learn than illustrator. Illustrator has some great capabilities, but the learning curve is obscene. I will not use it.</p> Adobe illustrator’s UI sucks. Let’s be real. I don’t know what they are smoking over in that group, but someone should shake that bunch up a bit.

Xara is easy to learn. Even Canvas is easier to learn than illustrator. Illustrator has some great capabilities, but the learning curve is obscene. I will not use it.

]]> By: rolling stone http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-11828 rolling stone Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:14:26 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-11828 <p>i just say and recomend it to all freehand users.</p> <p>just look what other alternatives you have. go to the website and check out the features of xara and canvas..</p> <p>COREL DRAW http://www.corel.com</p> <p>MICROSOFT EXPRESSION (DESIGN) http://www.microsoft.com/expression/default.aspx </p> <p>xara xetreme pro http://www.xara.com/products/xtreme/default.asp?v=pro&t= multipages, new brush tools,pantone colors....</p> <p>canvas http://www.acdamerica.com/products-x/default.html wow, its really a great programm. check it out</p> <p>i am just wondering that xara, corel, microsoft and canvas are not bringing out migration guides same as adobe. i think many users would feel better in xara or canvas than in illustrator. also i learned illustrator but the i still work with freehand because i am faster and all the workflow is smoother. working with tiled big pages? what should be this? many simple workflows you have to search and finde them behind hidden lists. you have not a library and a symbol palet istead of 2 you have 5 plats now? the clipping mask is a joke. for what should i allways ajust the color and fill from the f. mask? ok, i dont want to go on. and try to click fast thru groups. yummy</p> <p>so i start searching and find xara and canvas. i am going into it and will in future change to them instead of illustrator.</p> i just say and recomend it to all freehand users.

just look what other alternatives you have. go to the website and check out the features of xara and canvas..

COREL DRAW
http://www.corel.com

MICROSOFT EXPRESSION (DESIGN)
http://www.microsoft.com/expression/default.aspx

xara xetreme pro
http://www.xara.com/products/xtreme/default.asp?v=pro&t=
multipages, new brush tools,pantone colors….

canvas
http://www.acdamerica.com/products-x/default.html
wow, its really a great programm. check it out

i am just wondering that xara, corel, microsoft and canvas are not bringing out migration guides same as adobe. i think many users would feel better in xara or canvas than in illustrator. also i learned illustrator but the i still work with freehand because i am faster and all the workflow is smoother. working with tiled big pages? what should be this? many simple workflows you have to search and finde them behind hidden lists. you have not a library and a symbol palet istead of 2 you have 5 plats now? the clipping mask is a joke. for what should i allways ajust the color and fill from the f. mask? ok, i dont want to go on. and try to click fast thru groups. yummy

so i start searching and find xara and canvas. i am going into it and will in future change to them instead of illustrator.

]]> By: George http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-8655 George Thu, 14 Jun 2007 15:45:01 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-8655 <p>Well, I've probably mentioned this a handful of times elsewhere, but if you can get away with it, I'd suggest trying out Fireworks CS3. It's behaves more like FreeHand and less like Illustrator. For better or worse. If you're doing print work, then Fireworks might not cut it though.</p> Well, I’ve probably mentioned this a handful of times elsewhere, but if you can get away with it, I’d suggest trying out Fireworks CS3. It’s behaves more like FreeHand and less like Illustrator. For better or worse. If you’re doing print work, then Fireworks might not cut it though.

]]> By: cenovis http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-8626 cenovis Thu, 14 Jun 2007 12:55:26 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-8626 <p>Wow. I did a search for FH vs Illustrator and this is what I get. I'm just getting started with AI myself and was yanking my hair out trying to figure it out. I can see I'm not the only one. I've never used FH, but before AI, I just used Macromedia Flash to create my vector graphics. I am amazed at how much more fiddly AI is in comparison. The simplest action takes three or four different tools and selections. I can see now that I need FH, not AI.</p> Wow. I did a search for FH vs Illustrator and this is what I get. I’m just getting started with AI myself and was yanking my hair out trying to figure it out. I can see I’m not the only one. I’ve never used FH, but before AI, I just used Macromedia Flash to create my vector graphics. I am amazed at how much more fiddly AI is in comparison. The simplest action takes three or four different tools and selections. I can see now that I need FH, not AI.

]]> By: The Casualties of CS3: FreeHand at Creative Toolbox http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-7110 The Casualties of CS3: FreeHand at Creative Toolbox Wed, 16 May 2007 17:48:08 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-7110 <p>[...] I posed the question almost a year ago if the writing was on the wall for the fate of FreeHand. It appears that it’s finally true. I know after posting this story and follow up stories, [...]</p> [...] I posed the question almost a year ago if the writing was on the wall for the fate of FreeHand. It appears that it’s finally true. I know after posting this story and follow up stories, [...]

]]> By: Connie http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-4846 Connie Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:44:28 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-4846 <p>I also prefer Freehand to Illustrator and have used both for many years.</p> <p>You don't have to use Illustrator if you are a Mac user.</p> <p>You can buy a nifty Illustration program "Lineform" for less than $100 and get an intuitive powerful application that has "Inspectors" and feels like a little Freehand program. It has received rave reviews and the new version can parse pdfs--though I think they will need to refine this feature and probably will. It is situated to do well and stay updated.</p> I also prefer Freehand to Illustrator and have used both for many years.

You don’t have to use Illustrator if you are a Mac user.

You can buy a nifty Illustration program “Lineform” for less than $100 and get an intuitive powerful application that has “Inspectors” and feels like a little Freehand program. It has received rave reviews and the new version can parse pdfs–though I think they will need to refine this feature and probably will. It is situated to do well and stay updated.

]]> By: George http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-4603 George Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:06:37 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-4603 <p>Well, Lee I think Adobe may just let Freehand dies a long and sad death instead of killing it off officially. Anyone who remembers how LiveMotion went down knows what I'm talking about. My guess is you won't find solace in Illustrator CS3 but you may find the next version of Fireworks to your liking. Of course, that is if you can use Fireworks which is mainly intended for online media.</p> Well, Lee I think Adobe may just let Freehand dies a long and sad death instead of killing it off officially. Anyone who remembers how LiveMotion went down knows what I’m talking about. My guess is you won’t find solace in Illustrator CS3 but you may find the next version of Fireworks to your liking. Of course, that is if you can use Fireworks which is mainly intended for online media.

]]> By: lee http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-4598 lee Fri, 16 Mar 2007 23:38:09 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-4598 <p>i am completely astonished that illustrator has survived. as a lifelong freehand user i was forced to move to illustrator when i moved to a new country where illustrator predominated.</p> <p>adobe indesign is a revelation and although it could still improve i was happy to leave the arrogance of quarkxpress behind, but the claim of an integrated creative suite is completely undermined by illustrator.</p> <p>for example: whiy does the align tool work so differently (and unintuitively) in illustrator?</p> <p>why are there different default shortcuts for the same functions and why are some functions completely absent in illustrator?</p> <p>after starting mu own business i moved back to freehandbut live under constant fear that adobe will kill this beauty and leave me with the terrible beast.</p> i am completely astonished that illustrator has survived. as a lifelong freehand user i was forced to move to illustrator when i moved to a new country where illustrator predominated.

adobe indesign is a revelation and although it could still improve i was happy to leave the arrogance of quarkxpress behind, but the claim of an integrated creative suite is completely undermined by illustrator.

for example: whiy does the align tool work so differently (and unintuitively) in illustrator?

why are there different default shortcuts for the same functions and why are some functions completely absent in illustrator?

after starting mu own business i moved back to freehandbut live under constant fear that adobe will kill this beauty and leave me with the terrible beast.

]]> By: teax http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-3815 teax Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:24:58 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-3815 <p>I just dun really like freehand. My toolbox keep disappear. Anyone help me pleasee</p> I just dun really like freehand. My toolbox keep disappear. Anyone help me pleasee

]]> By: George http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-2263 George Tue, 07 Nov 2006 00:01:58 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-2263 <p>ND.Creative, You'll be happy to hear that Fireworks appears to be very much alive. Adobe announced a private beta for the next version of Fireworks the other week. You can go here: <a href="http://www.adobe.com/go/fireworksbeta" title="Adobe Fireworks Private Beta Signup">http://www.adobe.com/go/fireworksbeta</a> to signup if you're interested.</p> <p>I've always had a soft spot for Fireworks but haven't ever made the switch to using it over Photoshop and ImageReady (to a lesser extent nowadays). I have rather high hopes for the next version of Fireworks since I'm doing much more Web/UI design these days. And just as you pointed out, Photoshop can be a bit overkill and ill-suited for this type of work.</p> ND.Creative,
You’ll be happy to hear that Fireworks appears to be very much alive. Adobe announced a private beta for the next version of Fireworks the other week. You can go here: http://www.adobe.com/go/fireworksbeta to signup if you’re interested.

I’ve always had a soft spot for Fireworks but haven’t ever made the switch to using it over Photoshop and ImageReady (to a lesser extent nowadays). I have rather high hopes for the next version of Fireworks since I’m doing much more Web/UI design these days. And just as you pointed out, Photoshop can be a bit overkill and ill-suited for this type of work.

]]> By: ND.Creative http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-2262 ND.Creative Mon, 06 Nov 2006 23:49:57 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-2262 <p>While Photoshop is a killer tool for hi res image manipulation, I find the integration of both vector and bitmap objects in fireworks really intuitive and will be really dissapointed if fireworks is discontinued and photoshop doesn't take on any of it's great features.</p> While Photoshop is a killer tool for hi res image manipulation, I find the integration of both vector and bitmap objects in fireworks really intuitive and will be really dissapointed if fireworks is discontinued and photoshop doesn’t take on any of it’s great features.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Ryan Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:59:55 +0000 http://www.creative-toolbox.com/2006/04/26/is-the-writing-on-the-wall-adobe-offers-migration-help-to-freehand-users/#comment-2056 <p>It will be a cold, cold day in hell before I will ever give up Freehand 9. I've built my career and my business on it. It works for 80% of what I need in an application. Fireworks, GoLive and Photoshop make up the other 30%. With these tools, a graphic designer can consider himself well-equipped with the best of breed software. Illustrator is one sadistic piece of crap. Why bother? And who needs Quark or InDesign unless I'm laying out a book or a mag. For day in and day out, my bread is buttered with Freehand. Fireworks 3.0 is all I need for web graphics. Photoshop is a must. GoLive is so far ahead of DW in usability and site management that I wonder if it's the same gluttons who claim to "like" Illustrator that actually prefer DW too. </p> <p>The real leason in my 12 year career is that no piece of software is perfect. The best ones just get the hell out of my way.</p> It will be a cold, cold day in hell before I will ever give up Freehand 9. I’ve built my career and my business on it. It works for 80% of what I need in an application. Fireworks, GoLive and Photoshop make up the other 30%. With these tools, a graphic designer can consider himself well-equipped with the best of breed software. Illustrator is one sadistic piece of crap. Why bother? And who needs Quark or InDesign unless I’m laying out a book or a mag. For day in and day out, my bread is buttered with Freehand. Fireworks 3.0 is all I need for web graphics. Photoshop is a must. GoLive is so far ahead of DW in usability and site management that I wonder if it’s the same gluttons who claim to “like” Illustrator that actually prefer DW too.

The real leason in my 12 year career is that no piece of software is perfect. The best ones just get the hell out of my way.

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